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		<title>by: Eric</title>
		<link>http://recordingsurface.blogsome.com/2008/05/07/entrepreneurial/#comment-219</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 15:16:38 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I hate those emoticons too, but I can't find a control to change it. How does one emoticon a middle finger?

I also think Brown's description is the best out there, mostly because she refuses to separate the &quot;politics&quot; from the &quot;economics,&quot; and talks of governmentality instead. 

I think Brown mostly has the US in mind, but also Europe for sure. While the concept seems to have largely originated in the west, I'm not sure how one can talk about neoliberalism without including Asia and Latin America and Africa, considering the importance of capital flows, labor flows, currency differentials, etc. Which is another reason why talk about the decline of the nation-state is premature.

&quot;highlighting that liberalism always contained the seeds of this&quot;

This is definitely true in the US; probably also because it's been, even if wrongly, paired with neoconservatism.

Thanks for your comment, ana. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I hate those emoticons too, but I can&#8217;t find a control to change it. How does one emoticon a middle finger?</p>
	<p>I also think Brown&#8217;s description is the best out there, mostly because she refuses to separate the &#8220;politics&#8221; from the &#8220;economics,&#8221; and talks of governmentality instead. </p>
	<p>I think Brown mostly has the US in mind, but also Europe for sure. While the concept seems to have largely originated in the west, I&#8217;m not sure how one can talk about neoliberalism without including Asia and Latin America and Africa, considering the importance of capital flows, labor flows, currency differentials, etc. Which is another reason why talk about the decline of the nation-state is premature.</p>
	<p>&#8220;highlighting that liberalism always contained the seeds of this&#8221;</p>
	<p>This is definitely true in the US; probably also because it&#8217;s been, even if wrongly, paired with neoconservatism.</p>
	<p>Thanks for your comment, ana.
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		<title>by: ana</title>
		<link>http://recordingsurface.blogsome.com/2008/05/07/entrepreneurial/#comment-218</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 02:42:41 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>Ugh! I hate non beta emoticons (and there's no emoticon to express that).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Ugh! I hate non beta emoticons (and there&#8217;s no emoticon to express that).
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		<title>by: ana</title>
		<link>http://recordingsurface.blogsome.com/2008/05/07/entrepreneurial/#comment-217</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 02:20:18 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I've just started re-reading this piece by Brown.  I have the same problem with defining and using the term neoliberalism - and Brown's definition in this essay is the one I have found most fitting to date - especially her elaboration of neoliberalism as a political rationality.  Though yes ... the essay does veer a little towards welfare nostalgia (we need a compound word equivalent to oostalgie perhaps here - preferably one that highlights how it licenses left nationalism too!)

I do like the way that 'neoliberalism' now connotes 'capitalist oppression' in leftist discourse - highlighting that liberalism always contained the seeds of this ...

Though I'd never considered Brown's definition to be too western - in that well, it IS a western concept founded in western political rationality; and Brown seems to be talking specifically about the US?

Anyway, I'm interested to follow this train of thought :)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;ve just started re-reading this piece by Brown.  I have the same problem with defining and using the term neoliberalism - and Brown&#8217;s definition in this essay is the one I have found most fitting to date - especially her elaboration of neoliberalism as a political rationality.  Though yes &#8230; the essay does veer a little towards welfare nostalgia (we need a compound word equivalent to oostalgie perhaps here - preferably one that highlights how it licenses left nationalism too!)</p>
	<p>I do like the way that &#8216;neoliberalism&#8217; now connotes &#8216;capitalist oppression&#8217; in leftist discourse - highlighting that liberalism always contained the seeds of this &#8230;</p>
	<p>Though I&#8217;d never considered Brown&#8217;s definition to be too western - in that well, it IS a western concept founded in western political rationality; and Brown seems to be talking specifically about the US?</p>
	<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m interested to follow this train of thought :)
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		<title>by: s0metim3s</title>
		<link>http://recordingsurface.blogsome.com/2008/05/07/entrepreneurial/#comment-216</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 07:05:37 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I use 'neo-liberalism' - as you say, shorthand - but it irritates me every time I do.  For this implication that there has been 'liberalisation'.  Partly true, liberalisation of money; but the contrary (regulation) is where significant shifts have occured.  Still, I can't come up with better without risking unintelligibility, even more than usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I use &#8216;neo-liberalism&#8217; - as you say, shorthand - but it irritates me every time I do.  For this implication that there has been &#8216;liberalisation&#8217;.  Partly true, liberalisation of money; but the contrary (regulation) is where significant shifts have occured.  Still, I can&#8217;t come up with better without risking unintelligibility, even more than usual.
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		<title>by: Eric</title>
		<link>http://recordingsurface.blogsome.com/2008/05/07/entrepreneurial/#comment-215</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 23:40:29 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>It's worth polemicizing against. In the U.S., welfare spending has not actually decreased since Clinton signed the welfare reform bill in 1996. The cash payments (never very much in the U.S. to begin with) have been virtually eliminated in favor of various forms of aid: food, health care, child care, etc. The real change, the one that affects people's lives and affects them substantially, is the work requirements to receive this aid, which are incredibly stringent, and it's this insistence on work that I see as having wider implications and being much more repressive than the slashing of benefits. But the old, &quot;loose&quot; welfare requirements had their own sort of inclusions: looking for work, parenting classes, etc.

And yes, the nostalgia is always present. It's more implied in Brown, for instance, but Harvey is pretty blatantly nostalgic. Which is to say, as you do, social-democracy. Nostalgia is also the reason I have until recently been averse to the term &quot;neoliberalism,&quot; as in most usages it does carry an implied longing for Keynesian arrangements and for state intervention. But I've decided it's good enough shorthand for real shifts over the last 30 years. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>It&#8217;s worth polemicizing against. In the U.S., welfare spending has not actually decreased since Clinton signed the welfare reform bill in 1996. The cash payments (never very much in the U.S. to begin with) have been virtually eliminated in favor of various forms of aid: food, health care, child care, etc. The real change, the one that affects people&#8217;s lives and affects them substantially, is the work requirements to receive this aid, which are incredibly stringent, and it&#8217;s this insistence on work that I see as having wider implications and being much more repressive than the slashing of benefits. But the old, &#8220;loose&#8221; welfare requirements had their own sort of inclusions: looking for work, parenting classes, etc.</p>
	<p>And yes, the nostalgia is always present. It&#8217;s more implied in Brown, for instance, but Harvey is pretty blatantly nostalgic. Which is to say, as you do, social-democracy. Nostalgia is also the reason I have until recently been averse to the term &#8220;neoliberalism,&#8221; as in most usages it does carry an implied longing for Keynesian arrangements and for state intervention. But I&#8217;ve decided it&#8217;s good enough shorthand for real shifts over the last 30 years.
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		<title>by: s0metim3s</title>
		<link>http://recordingsurface.blogsome.com/2008/05/07/entrepreneurial/#comment-214</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 17:12:07 +0100</pubDate>
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					<description>I've been thinking a bit lately on polemicising against the seemingly indisputable phrase 'the decline of the welfare state'.  Partly because I can't come up with a convincing set of empirical elements which point to such, but also because I think it's such a nostalgic concept.  I mean to say, welfare spending has shifted around, and not necessarily declined.  In many cases, it has increased. 

I guess I find this phrase too socialist (or social democratic) in what it bullies forward, or should I say, laments.  As if the welfare state, once upon a time, actually provided, in some way that was not simultaneously marked by all sorts of really crappy shit or 'universal', protection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking a bit lately on polemicising against the seemingly indisputable phrase &#8216;the decline of the welfare state&#8217;.  Partly because I can&#8217;t come up with a convincing set of empirical elements which point to such, but also because I think it&#8217;s such a nostalgic concept.  I mean to say, welfare spending has shifted around, and not necessarily declined.  In many cases, it has increased. </p>
	<p>I guess I find this phrase too socialist (or social democratic) in what it bullies forward, or should I say, laments.  As if the welfare state, once upon a time, actually provided, in some way that was not simultaneously marked by all sorts of really crappy shit or &#8216;universal&#8217;, protection.
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